Public sentiment regarding Trump's executive order to end birthright citizenship is predominantly negative and deeply polarized. Many commenters assert strong opposition to the order, deeming it unconstitutional and threatening to civil rights, while a smaller faction supports the initiative, citing concerns about illegal immigration and perceived misuse of birthright citizenship. Significant frustration exists about the implications of such changes on American democracy and civil liberties, alongside calls for greater legal clarification on citizenship. The discourse reveals a mix of fear, confusion, and anger, with a strong emphasis on constitutional protections and the historical context of birthright citizenship.

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Was this ever in doubt?


Leaving three massive gaping holes for state suits, class actions, and appellate injunctions makes the "blockbuster ruling" this morning worthless from a practical perspective.


The conservative majority on SCOTUS has become so divorced from reality that they're not even good tools for Trump's fascistic whims anymore

tyuiopguyt

Many are willing to fight for this, we should all know that. The last election was a lack of participation, more so than usual. All MAGA policies are clearly against the interests of the average citizen.

AntBeaters

Silver linings. That’s how we get through this.

Myhtological

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qualityvote2

Doesn’t this birthright decision immediately kill everyone’s legal status? Every single one of us was born on US soil from an immigrant. Mine just happened to arrive here back in the 1800s.

tacs97

Filmmagician

This is good news ; I’m very glad to see this pushback today.

SnooPets8972

Scotus needs to grow a spine and actually help the people and laws they're meant to protect... I am loving the ACLU here!

AzuleStriker

One day we will read the best obituary that has ever been written. Then we will have a fresh spot to piss.

Anarchist-Antichrist

Totalanimefan

Somebody should remind the current administration about the Russian birth tourism that's been happening for decades at the president's properties...

JFJinCO

Throw some spare change ACLU's way if you've got any...they're really doing the heavy lifting for Americans these days

valadon-valmore

That includes his own anchor baby Barron Trump

Legitimate-Funny3791

Leadrene

I am sorry but I think it was over when SCOTUS ruled that whatever a President does is legal. This was tricky Dicky's wet dream. As Sotomayor had stated, "In every use of official power, the President is now a king above the law". This was the most "Un-American" thing I've witnessed.

They made it pretty clear they have zero ethics. So, I am not hopeful ACLU will win. SCOTUS will reinterpret the constitution out of existence if they need to. 1973 Roe v Wade ruling, declared abortion was a constitutional right. They tossed that out like a cigarette butt. So, why not this?

The damage is already done and we will keep paying for it. But, I also understand the need to resist and fight.

rmuktader

The ACLU still thinks that the SCOTUS looks at the Constitution? That's adorable. 

The law is what the corrupt wing of the SCOTUS says it is until the corrupt wing of the court fears the citizens more than they love their bribes.

Merijeek2

The problem now is that it's not just a simple lawsuit, they're up against law makers and judges who are cult members and will protect their god with everything they have.

PoPo573

Now there can be a national injunction since it's a class action lawsuit.

TA8325

Trump's dad is from Germany, revoke his citizenship

cynicalhippies

Didn't trump marry a bunch of immigrants and have kids with them? Wtf

PowDay420

Donate to the ACLU and other groups. One time, $25 a month. They and other groups are carrying a lot of the weight of this. ACLU has been there for Abrego Garcia, the Venezuelans sent to El Salvador (they are still working on those), and are leading the charge on many if not most of these cases of such Constitutional importance.

AsphaltQbert

There's so much of what this administration is killing that's upsetting to me.

But now - he's gotten personal. I have three grandchildren whose father is undocumented. He hasn't been in their lives for almost a decade. They were born HERE. They aren't bridges or anchors. They are American citizens. The oldest is a wage-earner and taxpayer. There is NOTHING criminal about these children. 

And I'm pretty certain - if ICE raises their ugly heads against my grandchildren, this is the hill I'm gonna die on. 

ICE is already taking citizens and naturalized citizens. They're taking people without Due Process simply because they're Brown. If trumpf gets his way, they'll have none of the Constitutional protections their ancestors fought to protect. 

And I WILL f\*\*k up some stuff. 

The bleaching of America under this fool's regime has got to stop.

Wooden_Number_6102

The 14th amendment says whatever the 6 conservative hacks want it to say, unfortunately.

kcamfork

Except he didn't care... ICE just kidnapped and trafficked anybody that look like Mexican or any color.

[deleted]

Aren’t all his kids birthright citizens? Like only 1 of them has an American born mother right? Correct me if I’m wrong please

forrestgrump430

I don't agree with them because I think it needs to end but I'm glad they are fighting for  what they believe in. It means the process and checks and balances are all working.

Myst21256

What's the point of lawsuits if the court of law is null and void? The Supreme Court is absent in their duties to the Constitution so how is this going to help anything besides theatrics?

AquiliferX

Technically his own kid is a anchor baby then

guitarner

So grateful for ACLU!!! I donate to support these guys, please if anyone can help donate…we need to fight this administration at every turn

Grand_Couple9206

Melania had an incorrect visa so Barron Trump must be deported

Brilliant_Ad_6637

pingying

Trump has demons waiting to get to his ass in hell

NaThanos__

The only thing this decision did was make it so now we will have 500 cases rather than 1. It why they have injunctions, to make sure more people don’t keep seeing when the case is already in court (or at least that is my understanding, could be wrong)

Piemaster128official

What's the point of having a judicial system if our elected officials can ignore all laws, including the constitution. What are they afraid of?

ButterflyEfficient71

The ACLU picks low hanging fruits and still often manages to screw it up. CASA, the actual org doing the actual work, has already filed an amended complaint asking for full class certification. Those are the orgs to support, not the ACLU. They have become horrible and the rot is deep.

New-Economist4301

auntiehoosier

steve93446

can we get a class action on scotus or nah

it has never been ruled on how it pertains to a citizen of another country who is in the United States ILEGALLY

Second - this rulings means even is an illegal sue cause they demand squat and drop birthright privileges - a Jusge could only grant it for that 1 person - and not invalidate Trump's EO nationwide

hoelscherk

GOD BLESS YOU ACLU!!!!! Planning to donate next pay!

Suspish_Rambo

The ruling is a clear cut case of treason against the united states and all on the bench who voted for this are in violation of the law and should be immediately disbarred, and tried for treason. This is not a grey area. They have shown they are willing to bend the law to the will of a president instead of whats enshrined in the constitution they are sworn to uphold.

MarzipanLast6502

This is exactly what Trump wanted. And the ruling will change America forever.

YoggTheGateway1992

But when law is corrupt there is no one to stop them except us. And no one can be bothered getting off the couch.

coffeenutsupremo

Is actually not clear... Only the interpretation is clear.

SkyLunatic71

Constitution doesn’t exist anymore after this Supreme Court ruling. I’m tired.

CrossX18

Good luck. Our courts are packed with his shit stains.

iamnotarobot0101001

When the British took our right away. We didn’t file lawsuits.

6Arrows7416

You write checks you can't cover , that's what you want not me

WeevilZ06

If the wording were that clear, there wouldn't be trials.

Interpretation has been run as everyone born within the borders, but that's not the current understanding of the POTUS, and wrong or right, his ability to shape the execution of the matter will be up to  the SCOTUS.

CaveDwellingDude

What for? The courts will rule against them, and they’ll still make money.

ria421m

The fact that this is even necessary is not good news.

I would like to take this a step further and say the 14th amendment is evidence that the nation really does want to invite immigrants into the country regardless of what conservatives claim.

arcbe

I want to file lawsuit on ACLU BIDDEN and KAMALA

So the 14th amendment can’t be challenged, changed, or infringed upon.

What about the 2nd amendment then?

LonelyStranger8467

#DONALD! YOU ARE GONNA KEEP THE 14TH AMENDMENT AND YOU ARE GONNA LIKE IT!!!

Goatgamer1016

the hassle and all the paperwork and unnecessary violence towards working families because of an old dying asshole made a deal with some prison industry complex, selling "illegals" to prison owners to keep profit going

marterikd

Just wait for someone on the right to argue that children aren’t “persons” in a legal sense or some BS

NerdyLeftyRev_046

Not sure how this can work as the Supreme Court already ruled on this today.

0x7E7-02

Neat! Maybe they'll take it all the way to the supreme court!

sweet_dicks

How do the people bring the Supreme Court to task for what they have become... a clearly biased politicall organization willing to sell out themselves and the country.


Its is obvious and apparent. What can anyone do about this? 

Themodsarecuntz

 Scotus is playing the twister game where they contort their interpretation of the constution to reach the point it complys with the current admin. Nice court if you own it.

This is the only way right now. Either this movement to make everyones' -- and I do mean everyone -- citizenship *fluid*, or we'll end up with a fascist regime in essence executing people indiscriminately, or we'll have civil war.

Whatever-999999

Considering the law was enacted to give former slaves full citizenship and equal rights. Not illegal immigration from foreign countries.

Vtrider1968

The ACLU has done more to protect our rights and freedom than the US military.

bowens44

THIS IS WHY I DONATE MONTHLY! SAY IT LOUDER FOR US ASSHOLES IN THE BACK!

De4con

Whizzleteets

Just curious, does the 14th amendement literally include that last part about the president liking it or not? If not, i think it should.

Robdebobrob

rewNATION

:( 
How i interpreted this, made me want to see how it plays out.
I was thinking everyone's status becomes illegal since the "birthright" is only for Natives at this point.

Your dad's dad's dad's dad's dad's dad's dad was was not born in America so he isnt a citizen. Since he wasn't a citizen. You arent a Citizen, he had you illegally. You can't be a citizen.

Get them all out! Then get your self out. 

Can you believe he has 3.5 years left?

badeed

Wow!  Even the ACLU is admitting that Trump is the President!  What about that immunity that the SCOUTUS authorized the president to have?  They don't separate children, so if they are under the age of 16, they go with their parents if the parents are not able to stay!?

Own-Eye-6392

Who is the individual victim?  No more nationwide injunctions!

blckstn2016

File on behalf of every birthright citizen everywhere.

childishDemocrat

The atrioc chatters labour union finally doing something, it's been years

0oodruidoo0

The first fucking sentence of the 14th amendment is abundantly clear that birth = automatic citizenship, yet they challenge it but will defend the right to bear any kind of arm while ignoring the context of a militia.

HerrBerg

If you have the means, a donation to the ACLU is VERY valuable right now.

sdezzy8

**DONATE HERE:**   [https://action.aclu.org/give/now](https://action.aclu.org/give/now)

wachusett-guy

Well, almost every child. At least one exception. Children of people with diplomatic immunity do not gain citizenship jus soli (by right of place).

Economy-Cat7133

Now they’re going to have to file something like 50 of those…

Thebaldsasquatch

How far back are they trying to end birthright citizenship? First generation birthright or like your great grandmother was born here, but now she's denaturalized and the entire lineage is going back to the motherland.

This country is made of immigrants, so everyone would be gone.

the_moosen

We will see. Foreign diplomats for example can have kids on American soil who aren’t automatically American citizens. 

“Declares that all persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to its jurisdiction are citizens of both the United States and the state where they reside.“ 

So I guess the part that people disagree on is subject to its jurisdiction. So that’s where the gray area comes in since you could argue that someone in the country illegally isn’t subject to its jurisdiction.

ActPositively

Birthright citizenship is the most stupid concept, it defies logic on every level.

hold the preliminary trial and arrest everyone and deport for interior terrorism act

Battleboo09

Donate to the ACLU, best money you'll spend right now as way of fighting back against the Trump administration.  They have over 50 lawsuits against the administration right now.

atreeismissing

No longer “the SUPREME COURT “ but the MAGA MAJORITY COURT

masternippon

I get like 20 new law suits every week in my email. I'm a monthly donator. I just wonder what the actual fuck legal action will do ever when it's clear it hasn't worked for 6 months

Modstin

Why is the text readable? OP, you need to make it less legible, to the point where young people are holding the phone closer and old people are holding the phone further.

bdfortin

So if an illegal immigrant comes into the United States without going through the proper processes and then has a baby on us soil while still being an illegal immigrant should that child be considered a us citizen? Cause that sure seems to me like the us is being taken advantage of….

Luckyfluffyx

Ok it is clear it’s not the case; in fact the Supreme Court just ruled that.

Fantastic-Dingo8979

Duccix

Birthright is not automatically granted for criminals. ACLU has no case.

keephoesinlin

Upper-Brother-8521

Old-Adhesiveness-156

I kinda like this approach. Say the law slightly incorrectly so they are forced to interpret literally.

Argument: “The constitution says it doesn’t matter if the president likes it or not”

Counter argument: “No, it says….”

Yes, please tell me what it says…

ab1278

Non birthright citizenship would Bar him from President

hawkeyepearce52

I kind of doubt the amendment says”whether the president likes it or not”

Thegreatsnook

With the ACLU Class Action filing does that mean no executive order action can be taken until it is decided by higher federal courts and ultimately the Supreme Court?

SundySundySoGoodToMe

DoomedKiblets

Conservatives sure love to claim they respect the Constitution, until the Constitution gets in the way of their xenophobia and racism.

runnyyolkpigeon

A federal appeals court ruled that Trump's executive order to end birthright citizenship is unconstitutional, a ruling that may go to the Supreme Court.

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